Comments on: Cynthia Ward on “Watching Avatar While White” http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/ Booklife gave you the platform. Booklife Now is your expansion kit. Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:28:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Nelson Phlieger http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-6025 Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:28:29 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-6025 29. Thank you for the info you’ve shared to us. One factor my sister fined this article extremely significant and it really helps her in so many methods particularly dealing with her job.

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By: Jamie Sizemore http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1933 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:24:06 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-1933 Hello, also like the Shrek movies, very good animation!

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By: Mickie Burgin http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1440 Thu, 20 May 2010 18:16:03 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-1440 Really appreciate you sharing this blog.Much thanks again. Keep writing.

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By: Can You Update Pulp Science Fiction Without Being F-ed Up? | Foam Weapons http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1439 Thu, 20 May 2010 17:23:39 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-1439 […] Ward, writing in Booklife, relates this theme to Burroughs' […]

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By: Zack http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1413 Mon, 17 May 2010 21:41:45 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-1413 My point is not that white people shouldn’t have these desires. Nobody has control over the feelings that come to them, after all.

This is a bit misleading. It’s true enough that emotional reactions are automatic, but the triggers and the responses to them can be changed over time. Psychologists have developed methods for alleviating phobias through prolonged, subtle exposure to the object of the phobia. Buddhists train themselves to give no heed to their desires, and some of them end up happier for it.

Giving up the desire to join other cultures and dominate them is probably a good idea. In this case, all this would require is a change in the genre conventions that movies like these follow. It wouldn’t even interfere with the fantasy of redemption; if Avatar didn’t feel the need to have a Big Damn Hero, it could have done about the same plot without so much emphasis on who exactly is leading the Na’vi rebellion. Make it an ensemble film–certainly there are a lot of war stories like that already.

I’m making it sound easy to change a century or so of literary tradition. It’s not; it would require a generation of people with Cameron-like influence to make stories according to new aesthetic standards. And not just stories, but Hollywood blockbusters, so we’re talking about a lot of money.

(It’s fine to write stories with Big Damn Heroes, but those stories probably shouldn’t try to be about the redemption of an entire culture’s sins.)

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By: The Worm Grower http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1146 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:32:51 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-1146 Avatar was easily the best movie to date.

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By: Cynthia Ward http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-956 Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:45:31 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-956 The direct quote is “[O]ur slaves fairly worshipped the ground he [John Carter] trod.”

That’s how I took it, John.

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By: John C. Wright http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-955 Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:30:24 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-955 “By the way, did John Carter have slaves? ”

The only clue we have from “A Princess of Mars” is that the father of the fictional editor of the book (Edgar Rice Burroughs maintains the pretense that John Carter is a real person who gave him the manuscripts) owns slaves. They were said to have fairly worshiped the ground he walked on. That would seem to indicate he did not, at least, mistreat them. He was a confederate officer who, after the war, went out West to prospect.

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By: Geek Media Round-Up: March 23, 2010 – Grasping for the Wind http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-953 Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:03:38 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-953 […] Ward discusses “Watching Avatar While White” at […]

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By: Cynthia Ward http://dev.booklifenow.com/2010/03/cynthia-ward-on-watching-avatar-while-white/comment-page-1/#comment-950 Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:24:11 +0000 http://booklifenow.com/?p=516#comment-950 Hi, Will. My ‘take’ on AVATAR is based on my white liberal reactions to it. I know it’s not other people’s interpretations (which seem to be wildly variable), or even necessarily many other whites’ and/or liberals’ reactions.

> the essentially Christian redemption concepts of contemporary anti-racist theory.

This I wouldn’t know anything about. I understood the Christian concept of redemption to predate American slavery, or for that matter the United States, but the house minister is in another state at the moment, so cannot double-check:)

Anyway, my point isn’t that my reaction (or Nisi’s, or both our reactions) is/are the lone legitimate interpretation of AVATAR. It’s that writers need to consider the effects of their words.

Here’s hoping I’ve sufficiently considered my words tonight:)
Cindy

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